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  • 01-12-2004 3:55 AM In reply to

    • Conaden
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    Re: Most Desirable LDoN for Bards?

    I am going to max out all camps for the adventurers stone. I also think fully augged armor is really good. I need 5 more pieces of armor and then I'll be augging them with FT and other stuff. I wont be seeing any armor any time soon from Elementals. Our guilds huge and I'd rather spend my points on weapons and instruments. Conaden Darksong, 65 Maestro of Povar
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  • 01-12-2004 10:18 AM In reply to

    • Luteson
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    Re: Most Desirable LDoN for Bards?

    Everfrost is my favorite to pull, with wide open spaces. Rujarkian Hills is a close second, but has more wanderers at intersections. Mistmoore is an easy dungeon to pull and fight, although you will have the enjoyment of using your mezzing capabilities a lot. NRO - my least favorite, but necessary to unlock the 1492 armor and several nice augments. Some very nice items in the 50s to the ABC (BP) in a 65 mission. Guk is a wonder and a place where we are really needed. Once you learn to pull it and CC, you will be in high demand for even uber groups. The items that drop are fairly nice upgrades for the non-raiding bard and there are some very nice point items to purchase at the Wayfarer's Discount House. Most desirable? I really enjoy Everfrost (Miragul). The FT2 chest augment is a very nice item to have at a reasonable price and there are some nice rings, masks, back items that drop in the mid 50s to 65 level. Bard pulling makes it so much easier and our CC and spell interruption skills are utilized constantly.
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  • 01-14-2004 6:41 PM In reply to

    • Steppy
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    Re: Most Desirable LDoN for Bards?

    I have said many times that when it comes to LDON armor, be very critical of the stats. Yes, the Royal Attendant from Tak has the most AC in every case. But the Malevolent Greaves and Malevolent Vambraces come with stamina and charisma and their counterparts in Takish do not -- which means the Miragul pieces for arms and legs are MUCH better buys at half the price and better pre-augmented stats, overall. Ideally, if you are outfitting yourself with armor from LDON, you will want some of both but study the stats -- it will affect your decsions.
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  • 01-18-2004 2:11 AM In reply to

    • keiz
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    Re: Most Desirable LDoN for Bards?

    Steppy hit that right on. :) Mir arms and legs are much better than their Tak counterparts, and cost half as much. That said, I still love Tak. The BP is very much worth its point cost and there is also a great necklace (Glass Shard Necklace) that's dirt cheap (220 pts) and comes with a Type 3 slot you can stick a FT1 aug (also sold in Tak - 340 pts) in. Not to mention you can get Fulfils in Tak. Mir is my second favorite LDoN location, because it has the armor mentioned above and, of course, Muse! You can also get a 150 damage DD proc from Mir, and I love procs. Third place goes to MM because of how easy it is to own the place with an AA'd Paladin tanking. Hehe, and did I mention I love procs? 75 pt Lifetap proc sold here!
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  • 01-20-2004 7:33 AM In reply to

    • paeros
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    Re: Most Desirable LDoN for Bards?

    Actually the Mir legs and arms are worse over all, but your right about half the cost.
    Tak 1492 Royal Attendant Greaves of the Sand AC:48, Str:10, Wis:6, Int:6, Agi:10, HP:85, Mana:80, FR:13, DR:13, type1,type2,type3 War, Clr, Pal, Shd, Brd Leg
    Mir 760 Malevolent Greaves of Suffering AC:44, Sta:8, Cha:8, Wis:5, Int:5, HP:70, Mana:65, CR:10, MR:10, type1,type2,type3 War, Pal, Clr, Shd, Brd Leg
    Tak 1492 Royal Attendant Sleeves of the Sand AC:34, Sta:6, Cha:6, Wis:6, Int:6, HP:80, Mana:70, DR:7, MR:7, PR:7, type1,type2,type3 War, Clr, Pal, Shd, Brd Arm
    Mir 760 Malevolent Vambraces of Suffering AC:31, Dex:5, Sta:5, Cha:5, HP:65, Mana:55, DR:5, CR:5, PR:5, type1,type2,type3 War, Pal, Clr, Shd, Brd Arm
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  • 01-20-2004 2:36 PM In reply to

    • keiz
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    Re: Most Desirable LDoN for Bards?

    I'll agree with you on the arms, but the legs.. No STA on the Tak legs makes up for the HP disparity, and the Tak legs are only a few few points better on AC. And they trade CHA for AGI / STA for STR. No thanks.
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  • 01-21-2004 10:36 AM In reply to

    • Steppy
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    Re: Most Desirable LDoN for Bards?

    The Malevolent greaves are better. Sorry to disagree with you but they just are. The TOTAL Hp (including from STA) are higher and the added CHA is essential at higher levels. Trading off 4 AC and some less meaningful stats to save 732 AP and at the same time gain HP and CHA -- believe me, they are a much better deal. As for the arms -- I think the savings in AP are worth the difference. That's an opinion I can see some disagreement with, but assuming you're earning 51 per mission and spend a minimum of one hour forming group and doing the mission, you're talking 14 hours of hard work and the sleeves are just not 14 hours of MY time better at Takish.
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  • 01-27-2004 4:18 PM In reply to

    • Luteson
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    Re: Most Desirable LDoN for Bards?

    Since APs earned are most likely not unlimited, I like to view the decision of Tak vs. Mir (or any item for that matter) as one which takes the total points expended into account. For instance, the difference between the NRO Gauntlets and the EF Gauntlets (in favor of NRO): AC 3, STA 3, HP 15, Mana 15, STR 8, SvC 2, SvF 2, SvD 7, AGI -1, CHA -4, SvM -5. The Gauntlets cost 732 more points (I'll round to 760 for this purpose). I'm not sure that I would want +8 STR over +4 CHA; in fact, I'm sure I'd want the extra CHA. While SvD is nice, I'd also prefer the +5 SvMagic. So I'm really giving up HP15/Mana15, 3AC, STA 3 and a couple of 2 saves in exchange for the 4 CHA and 5 SvMagic. With the extra 760 points available, I could buy another piece of Malevolent gear, purchase a type 2 or type 3 augment up to 760 points, or use the points to get a 1150 augment (awarding Tak plate 390 in the process). Without a doubt, there are some very nice augments for 760 points or less, either conferring a type 3 effect or bolstering stats via type 2. In fact, I could spend 357 points on an FT1 augment and have extra points left over, or purchase a 10 STA solo or combination augment.
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  • 02-08-2004 7:47 PM In reply to

    Re: Most Desirable LDoN for Bards?

    Takish BP with FT5 worth of augs (or maybe FT4 and +40 HP aug) would serve me better than ornate. I doubt if I'll be getting rizlonas chestplate anytime soon, and the FT would help me greatly in pulling (I snare/mez/fade a lot now rather than mez...in normal and high risk, as well as other places).
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