EQDiva

I really ought to know this by now. I'm given to understand that the scales I need for my epic are a "large red dragon scale" and a "large white dragon scale" (singular and "large"). I've never seen or heard about these in-game, but I've seen "red dragon scales" and "white dragon scales" (plural, not "large") being sold for about the prices I've been told to expect my epic scales to sell for on my server. So, all you epic folks out there, what's the deal? Not that I can afford them either way, and I'd prefer to get them off the dragon if at all possible (it may not be), but are the scales I've seen actually what I need? Or do these other scales just -happen- to be worth exactly the same amount as the scales I need? Or are people on my server preying upon confused bards like myself and overcharging for something that's not really what I need?

nope the scales are just "white dragon scales" and "red dragon scales"... no large in there... i believe the ones we need are no drop and they cant be sold.... could be wrong on the no drop thing though so you might want to double check... but remember no large ones

They are tradable and can definetly be sold (such is the normal lament of the pre-epic Bard)

Depending on your level, there are various mobs that drop the scales you need. If you are 52 or below, then start going on raids that are killing Nagafen and Vox. Naggy drops the red scale and Vox the white scale. If you are above 52, then there are other sources for them. Talendor in Skyfire and Nortlav Scalekeeper in the Hole can both drop Red scales, Gorenaire in Dreadlands can drop the white scale. From my own personal experience, the red scale seems to be much easier to get than the white scale. I stayed at 52 for 8 months to get my white scale off Vox as my guild wasn't big enough to take on Gore! Week after I got it, we killed Gore :) Just one little dragon to go and I shall have my epic!! Good luck with getting the scales! Oh and if you want a really good walk through of the epic quest, there is one on the old site EQdiva.com Aelin

Heh. If you check the walkthrough you just pointed me at, you'll see where my confusion came from: http://www.eqdiva.com/quests/epic/default.asp?part=lute The quest guide on AllaKhazam says basically the same thing. They both make it sound like there is an item named "large red|white dragon scale." I knew the other stuff. I can get the red scales in the bazaar for about 7kpp just about any time I want. White scales are, of course, the killer. I'm at 52 now, and I'll probably keep leveling. I'm an officer in a tiny guild of RL friends, and really don't wish to leave that. I've been told by people in larger guilds that there are no Vox pickup raids on Bertoxx, ever, period, and that I stand a much better chance of getting my epic by leveling to 60 and scraping together the cash to buy the white scale. *sigh*

if your having trouble finding the scales or your guild is not capable of killing the dragons, find out who your local mana burn team is. theres usually a team of mana burn wizards that go around killing talendor, gore and the other ring of scale dragons and they will definatly sel you the scales.

You always can attend to Naggy/Vox raids. If you are lvl52 or below as a regular raid member. And if you are 53+ as buffer (lvl54+ prfered for Elemental Chorus) Adding a nice boost to Cold/Fire/magic resistances You wont be ported out if u dont attempt to hit or cast on them.

Manaburn has been nerfed long ago, killing the dragon frying teams. And when it comes to Vox/Naggy, you get ported out of the lair as soon as you're within agro range if you're over 52. You can't go in with the raid force just to play the AE resists, if the dragon gets a whiff of you, it's instant trip to zone.

OMG if scales wer 7k on my server I'd have my epic by now. They go for over 20 each. Good luck! My guild killed Ragefire, so hopefully soon we will be able to kill Gore as well as I'm 55. Also have to kill Ragefire etc several times as I'm 3rd at least in line for the scales behind two warriors with gimp epics. Sinfonian

Red scales on Torv go for 15k and white for 35k in Bazaar. 2 of the last 3 things I need for epic.

Good thing your not on Karana. The red scale has dropped in price (only 10k now) but the white scale's price is thru the roof at 85k. Good thing I got a white scale after 4 Vox tries. No way I was going to save up that much.

my white scale costed 4k (kane server) and redscale was a gift from friend, the skull from warlord, nekezena guts and tendril from PoH where MQ by 2 other friends, had a lot of help, consider myself a lucky and happy bard :) finally got my epic! :D