EQDiva

Yes I realize that this forum has probably seen a ton of these, but I can't seem to use the search function in a way that I could find exactly what I'm looking for. Anyway my question is this; On allakhzam it stated as a comment that there are 4 total stackable types of haste them being: v0=worn, v1=spell haste, v2=effect, v3=overhaste The only problem with that is, aren't there 3 different types of bard haste or rather effect haste, 2 of which are in fact overhaste? So wouldn't that mean that there are in fact 5 types of haste? Let me use an example say I was wearing an item that gave 20% and using lute of the howler illusion for the 40% spell haste, then play the songs verses of victory (30%), melody of the ervaj (v2 5%), and battlecry of the vah shir (v3 15%). Don't all 5 of them stack? Also is the cap on haste still 100% with v0, v1, and v2? And with "v2 and v3" bard songs the cap is raised by how much the 2 songs add? Sorry about the ranting.. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, thanks

Item 20% Spell/song (lute) 40% so far, 60% Verses of victory wouldn't stack as you've already got the spell haste from the werewolf illusion counting. ATK or STR parts of haste songs DO stack and are worth singing, but the haste part isn't going to get any better and will take the top one, which so far is the Lute's 40%. Evarj is the V2 so will stack with the spell/song v1 upto cap, so that's an additional 5% (might not be worth singing). Bringing us upto 65% haste so far. Vah Shir, being a v3 is going to stack and over cap, but we're not near it, but it's still a 15% haste, bringing us upto; 80% haste for that song selection Easy these days to get 40% haste items, get a chanter haste for 60%, bang, your at cap. Singing Ervaj's wouldn't help as although it stacks, it doesn't go over the 100% cap. So, item (around 40%) + (song/spell/clicky at 60%ish) + v2 (not worth it usually as item+spell get you to cap) + v3 (over cap, that is on the rizlona line, auras, and a very few items just to confused everyone). There'll be times it's still worth singing haste songs, Warmarch is usually in the twist as although the haste won't add anything as everyone's been clickied/buffed/etc, the DS + ATK will land fine. And to add even more confusion, the high end overhaste stuff, although it says 30%, turns out the upper limit is 125%. No wonder it's easy to get confused.

interesting.. I didn't know about 125% cap. I thought the top was 130%.

Yes, the cap with overhaste is 125% total. So any melee with a bard playing Warmarch or clicky from RoSN or Songblade(60%) plus the overhaste aura(30% overhaste) only needs a worn of 35% or better to reach the cap of 125% total.

Old post, but here's an interesting discussion on how haste and weapon delays interact:  Haste Discussion.  Gist of it is that at certain delays and haste %s, the delay will drop one where it wouldn't just one higher.  For example, 21 has a delay of 10 at 125% where 20 has a delay of 9 at 125%.

 Not only is that discussion outdated (i.e. The bug that was causing that issue has been fixed) but their numbers are inaccurate to begin with.

This is probably outdated too, but...

Krescendo's Haste Guide