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  • 12-06-2007 11:07 PM

    • songnar
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    I, for one, have had enough...

     SoE continues to gyp the bard out of any REAL upgrade, give us something that will set us apart from the other classes and make us useful!

    Once upon a time, a bards redeeming quality was that he could run faster than anyone else and he could regen HP/Mana at a reasonably useful rate. Sadly, those days are behind us.

     At this point, we are posed with a thinker of a question - what would be a reasonable thing to ask of SoE for the bard race and how can we make them pay some attention to our demands? No more lying down and taking the nerfs as though we do not matter, we should stand up and defend ourselves! Give bards a chance!

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  • 12-10-2007 1:12 PM In reply to

    • Laief
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    Re: I, for one, have had enough...

    Bards were nerfed again?  I must have missed that one.  As far as our HP/Mana regen not increasing as much as with previous expansions, all other heal classes are complaining also.  Druids are complaining that their heals are not as effective anymore with the HP increase so they want an upgrade... though if they get an upgrade they will be close to or the same healing power as clerics.  A clerics "Complete Heal" spell will heal for about 10k hp which is about 1/2 the HP pool of a good raid tank now.

     In summary... No I don't think we got a Nerf in anything... we just didnt get the upgrade which many of us were hoping for.

     

    Some things you might not have noticed... the rk. i (lvl 76-80) HP/Mana song are better than the rk. iii previous ones.  Our rk. i dots now do double what the previous ones did.  Sony has kepted in line with previous spells when it comes to mez/charm and what lvls it effects.  Bards still do run faster than any one or any horse (very close to the AA horse, but yes slightly faster).  The only song that I have noticed that has not been upgraded in quite some time is "War March of the Muram."

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  • 12-12-2007 10:08 AM In reply to

    • Fenring
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    Re: I, for one, have had enough...

    Personally, I'm pretty happy with my bard.  I wouldn't have minded some more mana regen, but my shaman definitely notices when it's not there.  We're still the best pulling class in 90% of game situations (if not more), the dps we add to a group is significant through our aura, we can lock down 3 mobs as long as our fingers hold out.  Hell, I can even tank reasonably well in Beza and LP (haven't tried it too many other places) by putting the NBoB in and loading up the DoTs.

    Admittedly, the songs from SoF are either cut and paste or down-right useless, but we're still the most unique and versatile class in the game.  Bout the only thing we can't do is heal.

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  • 01-14-2008 2:59 PM In reply to

    Re: I, for one, have had enough...

    Countless times we have cried out to the devs, but it falls on deaf ears. Did you want to go for round number 174? It's not for lack of trying or feedback.

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  • 01-14-2008 4:15 PM In reply to

    • Laief
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    Re: I, for one, have had enough...

    In many cases "the squeeky wheel gets the grease."  When it comes to SOE that is not the case.  Usually when you complain that we did not get what we want, they go back over and realize they did not mean to give us all that they had.  I say let the sleeping dog lie.  We can solo anything in the game that does not summon or cast... no matter what level or how many HP.  Bards are the true jack-of-all-trade/utility class.  We were not created to excell at only one thing, but instead we can cover almost any position offered to us.  If you want an ultimate healer create a healing class, if you want a killer tank create a straight melee class.  If you want a class that can out pull and out solo any other class in the game... you are playing the correct one.  This game was not made so that everyone would reach lvl 50 (now 80) in a day, week, month or even a year.  Many zones and places 90% of the population will never get to experience.  If SoE were to give everyone everything they wanted, people would be bored with the game in a matter of a few weeks and there would be no Everquest at all.  Stop looking at it like the glass is 1/2 empty... actually it is 3/4 full.

     If you want to know when bards were truly useless... think back to the point before AA's existed.  No Fading Memories... No Boastful Bellow...No Run 8 indoors.  Rangers outpulled Bards anyday.  Want to reember a true nerf?  Remember when they stopped letting our AE dots work on anything that was moving.  Half the Bards that played at that time stopped playing or switched classes.  Just remember, this is the first expansion in a long time that they didnt break something existing to the Bard when they updated.

     

    So what is it that you are actually asking for?  All I keep seeing is that bards are getting "nerfed" or we are not getting what we want.  What is it you want???

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  • 01-16-2008 5:25 PM In reply to

    • tulima
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    Re: I, for one, have had enough...

    Wow great post, and i realy agree with you. i love my 79 bard realy its fun...

     

     

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  • 01-17-2008 4:40 AM In reply to

    Re: I, for one, have had enough...

    /salute

    That's a really good perspective Laief. We do all right, getting new stuff is nice, being left alone is better.

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