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  • 01-17-2008 7:21 AM

    76 Lineup

    Of course, everytime I ding I just like to revisit what lineups are the most efficient.  I always play with the same group (we have a specified game night) and was hoping to get some feedback.  When I started 2 months ago, everyone was 75 and I started from level 1, so I've been power leveled quite a bit for the sake of pulling.  The largest detriment is I don't get a lot of learning time, so pardon me if my questions sound ignorant.  I've played for years in the past (a mage) but coming back after 5 years is an entirely different story.  For me, it is so important to learn my class, so I ask a lot of questions.

    80 Warrior
    80 Beserker
    79 Monk
    79 Cleric
    80 Shaman
    76 Bard (me)

    And my current lineup is as follows:


    Twisting while in camp (1, 2, 3, 4) with aura up at all times.
    1) War March of Muram
    2) Cantata of Restoration Rk. II
    3) Song of the Storm (I know I don't have Storm Blade :( )
    4) Song of the Dryads Rk. II
    5) Aura of the Muse

    Pulling
    6) Amber's Last Lullaby Rk. II
    7) Elddar's Dawnsong Rk. II
    8) Largo's Assonant Binding

    Rany Dais 80 Bard - Quellious http://eq.magelo.com/profile/1381890
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  • 01-17-2008 8:23 AM In reply to

    • Trebla
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    Re: 76 Lineup

     That looks fairly solid, though I think you could do better. 

    I'm not sure why you have the AE snare/slow instead of the single target snare; especially with a shaman to snare normally.  I'd recommend replacing Assonant Strain with Largo's Melodic Binding (or whatever the low level single target snare is called).

    I'd also suggest getting a couple AA and buying at least the 9th spell slot, if not the 10th as well.  Having an emergency DA available is nice, and I use Harmony of Sound (big resist debuff) on a lot of pulls, you may even consider replacing Lull with HoS for now.

    The use of Dryad's, also, is questionable.  Generally, you'd be much better tossing in Niv's Harmonic (AC Buff) or Coldcrow's Spry Sonata (level 78ish?) as it will not only reduce total damage more, but also will even out spikes.  On the other hand, if your tank doesn't have problems staying alive, you might consider replacing it with an offensive song such as the newest Jonthan's self-only buff from TBS.

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  • 01-17-2008 8:32 AM In reply to

    Re: 76 Lineup

    I do use the lower level single snare, must have mislinked that.  Thanks for the input, I will edit my post accordingly as well.   It sounds like working through a few AAs might be worthwhile at this time to get the DA and HoS slot (when I do get this spell...).  Coldcrows is 78, so I have a couple of levels until I reach that.  Thanks again!
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  • 01-18-2008 1:08 AM In reply to

    Re: 76 Lineup

    Largo's Assonant Binding is the level 51 single target snare/slow/ag/ac debuff. On some mobs it could be good not as a pulling song but a dps song (the agility and armor class debuff). It's really not your best choice for pulling though. For every component on a song, the mob gets to make a separate resist check. So when you sing this song, and say the snare component isn't resisted, the agility debuff isn't resisted, the armor class isn't resisted, but oops, the slow component got resisted - if the mob resists any part of the song, it resists the entire song, making this harder to land than the other choices.

    Dirge of Metala is a 50% snare with no other components, making it the easiest to land reliably, which is really good for pulling when sometimes you have to land it on the first try or start over on the pull.

    The level 23 snare, selo's consanant chain, is also a really good choice. It is both a snare component and a slow component, giving the mob twice as many chances to resist as dirge of metala. But if resists don't seem to be an issue at your camp and/or hos makes it land fine anyway, it's a better snare than dirge and a better slow than largo's. 40% slow for your pre-slowing needs, and the number on lucy's is 110% snare, as opposed to the 50% snare that is dirge. The main advantage is slow and snare combined in one song for the incoming.

    Your actual buff choices look good for your group, and with the strong melee emphasis, debuffs aren't really a big issue. I figure mana song must be for the shaman. Darkvine or Dryad's or whatever should be flexible though, Unless you really really need it, it's not going to improve the group's performance. Unless it makes the healing easier. I usually use it less for the tank, and more for the non-tanks on ae's and such. The damage it absorbs is pretty limited. Nothing wrong with singing it, but I would think of that as my wild card slot, and choose from a number of songs.

    Psalm of Veeshan for more damage shield (and maybe resists if you ever need them). Actually, it's either late, or we need more useful songs, cause I just can't think of any other song besides pov i'd really sing in that group. Maybe the new Jonthan's from katta if I have some good melee procs. But that's just gravy. Honestly, if you do any chain pulling and spend a good amount of the killing time away from the group getting your next pull already (which you probably can do a lot with that group dps), I would seriously consider having an overhaste song in that wild card spot, if not pov. Even though you have aura, aura poofs on them as soon as you leave the camp. Songs last 12 seconds after you play them. So they have overhaste from the aura as soon as you arrive in camp, and then if you give them a fresh hit of overhaste song just before you leave the camp, they have it for 12 more seconds while they're killing the mob and you're out of range getting another. You certainly aren't likely to lose much by dropping dryads.

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  • 01-18-2008 7:17 AM In reply to

    Re: 76 Lineup

    This is some really great info!  Thanks for the analysis of the various snare songs.  I didn't really look that in depth on the various components and resist percentages.  Thanks!  It sounds like i need to make a priority and try to get HoS and PoV.  I'm ashamed to say at 76 I don't have these yet.  Tsk tsk, that is just one of the woes of being brough up too quickly.  From the feedback, it really sounds like I should drop Dryads and go with either PoV (once I get it) for additional dmg shield or an ac buff to help out.  I've just always played canatana to help out in the healing mana arena, figuring every little bit helps, but if no complains, might be worth using BOTH pov and ac buff. 

     I'll change out my pulling line to the proper snares, and work on getting HoS, and a couple of additional spell slots to make life easier =)

     Thanks!  I have some goals now.

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